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在澳大利亚 I need some advice regarding a property purchase. Property - semi-detached house Bedrooms - 2 Condition - average needs internal reno to modernise Street - one of the best in suburb Location - excellent Close to schools - yes Transport - 50m The pool at of an IP needs to be resurfaced (or so the pool doctor says), the cost was estimated to be $10K ($10,000), after recoverying from my impresssion of a cat coughing up a fur ball, it just seems far too much. Its just a standard poo


Hi all,

I am currently more then interested in 2 houses that are for sale in a regional town but the selling agent is a right royal tosser and to be honest, i don't want to deal with him. I've dealt with him before a couple of years ago and ever since then, i've made a path away from this guy.

The problem is that his name is listed as being the seller for these properties and he owns the agency that they are advertised through.

Can i go though another agency in the same small town to inspect and buy these homes? I really do want to inspect these homes (as they meet my criteria) but i don't want to deal with this idiot.

Any suggestions?


Thanks


g  

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gg1965 said: ↑
Can i go though another agency in the same small town to inspect and buy these homes? I really do want to inspect these homes (as they meet my criteria) but i don't want to deal with this idiot.Click to expand...
gg, you could try going to another REA in town and explaining your desire. Most reasonable selling agents will conjunct with another agent if that means a sale (even if they have to share commission 50-50 or 60-40).  

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It will be up to the listing agent as to whether he is prepared to accept sharing the commission. A lot will depend on for how long and how tightly he has signed the vendor up.

However, if you found out about the property through the original agent's listing and advertising, then it may be difficult to say that another agent introduced you to the property.
Marg  

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Hi all,

If i were a stranger in the town then i would have no qualms in approaching another agent. But i know this town well (even though i don't live in it) and i know people in this town, and it is a country town too so the grapevine is well used.

I'm thinking if i can get my solicitor to do all the negotiating on my behalf, but my concern is for me to get inside these places so that i can have a look at them - ie organise an inspection. I only trust myself for inspections on period homes.

I did have a thought over a pint of beer (or two) that i could phone him up and give him a fake name and organise an inspection for one of his rural properties (that is about 20km out of town) and then when that is confirmed, i ring the office again and organise an inspection for these two properties for the same time - and he would have to send his secretary to those inspections.

Do you think that'll work?



thanks


g  

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In a lot of sales there's the listing agent (presumably the guy you don't like) and the selling agent. They're often the same person and almost always from the same agency.

Most vendors sign an agreement with the agency, not the individual. I imagine you could approach one of the other agents in the same office without too much trouble.

If they try to refer you to the tosser, just say you'd prefer to deal with someone else, but your interest is genuine.  

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gg1965 said: ↑
I'm thinking if i can get my solicitor to do all the negotiating on my behalf,Click to expand...
I would absolutely advise against this. Solicitors do the legal stuff very well but in negotiations all they are allowed to do is say "No" my client will not accept that. They cannot put forward an alternative without seeking instructions

gg1965 said: ↑
I did have a thought over a pint of beer (or two) that i could phone him up and give him a fake name and organise an inspection for one of his rural properties (that is about 20km out of town) and then when that is confirmed, i ring the office again and organise an inspection for these two properties for the same time - and he would have to send his secretary to those inspections. Do you think that'll work?Click to expand...
I'd advise against telling lies also. Maybe you just have to learn some techniques for dealing with him?  

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Is this a personal issue?

If so, maybe you could send a trusted person with a digital camera to do the inside inspection.

A friend of mine wanted to buy a property. Long story, it was the subject of a contested will years ago and friend knew that the vendor (a distant rellie) would NEVER sell to him. It was up for auction so he sent his solicitor to bid, with authority to sign the contracts.

He got the property. But this was an entirely emotional purchase, which he was well able to afford.

OR, you may decide you want to inspect these properties and will just have to put up with him.
Marg  

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If you just want not to deal with this man, then talk to somebody else in the office and say so. They may understand your predicament, if they work with him every day. ;) Or you could appoint a buyers' agent and see if he'll conjunct, and see if your agent can get permission to take you through the property, without the selling agent present.

Depriving him of any revenue from the transaction would be harder, but it doesn't look like that's your goal. (You're obviously not as vindictive as I would be if he'd mistreated me. ;))  

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Hi all,

I don't know if you call it personal but i just think this guy is a complete idiot - a right royal tosser, and i don't want anything to do with him.

I don't want to go into specifics as he may be reading this forum and if i went into detail he'd be able to work out who it was. But it involves a few "snide" remarks made to myself about my Taiwanese business partners. Plus, it also relates to comments his secretary made to me when i complained about a high invoice that they sent me (for other services).

Basically, i just don't want to deal with him and or his agency as it is a one man show (as well as a busy body secretary who talks down to people - that is a story in itself).

I may get an uncle of a friend of mine to inspect the houses concerned. He is 80 years old though but knows his building stuff rather good. He is the type of guy who turns up to house inspections with a straight edge and a camera. He tests all the taps, dunnies, opens and closes all the windows, doors etc. So i may shout him a dinner and a bottle of wine if he does the inspections for me. Then find someone else to do the negotiations for me on my behalf - ie a buyers agent. The trouble with getting the 80 year old guy to do the inspections is that he lives an hour away. I may drive him there, go off and sit in a pub while he does the inspections and then meet him afterwards.

These houses do intrigue and interest me but i told myself a few years back that i didnt want to deal with this idiot again. I just wish he would retire and take his bigotness and his nosey secretary away to the place that old real estates agents go to.

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g  

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or you could just knock on the door and say to the owner that you are interested, but don't want to deal with the tosser (and be prepared to have a reason why) and see if the owner will deal with you...

there may be commission issues at stake for the owner depending on how they have been tied up in the listing agreement - but that is there problem not yours!!  

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Article in today's Courier Mail:

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...ents-commissions/story-e6frep2f-1225945624082
Marg  

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if its not a sole agency you have ebery right to approcah the vendor yourself and do a deal....I detest agents with a passion...they are all vultures who would rip off their own mothers given half the chance to make a buck...even more so in downturn times when sales are light...

its its not a sole agency, go knock on the sellers door............  

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and i detest people who make sweeping generalisations of all agents based of a number of morons who screw people over... of course there are dodgy agents - there are dodgy folks in all professions, but calling all agents vultures who would rip off their own mothers is both childish and slanderous!:mad:

and i detest it especially when persons making stupid statements make even more idiotic remarks...you can approach the owner regardless of the listing agreement the owner is tied up in. Whether or not the owner has commission implications is the problem of the seller not the person making the approach.  

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urban cowboy said: ↑
and i detest people who make sweeping generalisations of all agents based of a number of morons who screw people over... of course there are dodgy agents - there are dodgy folks in all professions, but calling all agents vultures who would rip off their own mothers is both childish and slanderous!:mad:

and i detest it especially when persons making stupid statements make even more idiotic remarks...you can approach the owner regardless of the listing agreement the owner is tied up in. Whether or not the owner has commission implications is the problem of the seller not the person making the approach.Click to expand...
Lol...Are you kidding or what?

Of course agents are vultures...thats the name of the game picking the bones off people.............

If you dont class yourself in that category thats your call but leopards dont change their spots in the r/e game......its all about generating commissions, no matter what....and every agent is part of that.

If you think people think agents are upstanding citizens of Australia then best think again...they are at the bottom of the barel when it comes to integrity.

Agents generally prey on the weak, lie daily, will do almost anything to close a deal with anyone including their own families and still want overpaid commissions............pft

The whole industry needs one hell of a shake up, its a total farce......full of smoke and mirrors....

The public are being duped daily....but thats the name of the game currently............

Yep R/E agents generally are upstanding citizens....NOT  

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csc2, your comments are outrageous. :mad: If you knew urban cowboy, you would - or should, if you have a shred of decency - be ashamed of yourself.  

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Perp said: ↑
csc2, your comments are outrageous. :mad: If you knew urban cowboy, you would - or should, if you have a shred of decency - be ashamed of yourself.Click to expand...
I'll second that. And if you saw the size of urban cowboy you should be afraid..... very afraid :D.

I've said on here many times, I know a LOT of agents personally, not just through buying and selling and your comments ARE not worth a pinch of salt.  

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Perp said: ↑
csc2, your comments are outrageous. :mad: If you knew urban cowboy, you would - or should, if you have a shred of decency - be ashamed of yourself.Click to expand...
I'll second that. And if you saw the size of the physical man, or knew of the integrity of urban cowboy and realise you have just slandered him you should be afraid..... very afraid :D.

I've said on here many times, I know a LOT of agents personally, not just through buying and selling and your comments are not worth a pinch of salt.  

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thanks girls - appreciate you both!!:)  

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csc2 said: ↑
Lol...Are you kidding or what?

Of course agents are vultures...thats the name of the game picking the bones off people.............

If you dont class yourself in that category thats your call but leopards dont change their spots in the r/e game......its all about generating commissions, no matter what....and every agent is part of that.

If you think people think agents are upstanding citizens of Australia then best think again...they are at the bottom of the barel when it comes to integrity.

Agents generally prey on the weak, lie daily, will do almost anything to close a deal with anyone including their own families and still want overpaid commissions............pft

The whole industry needs one hell of a shake up, its a total farce......full of smoke and mirrors....

The public are being duped daily....but thats the name of the game currently............

Yep R/E agents generally are upstanding citizens....NOTClick to expand...
Hey csc2 - you are out of line.

Your tag line..."** I want you to know I have entered the Snapdragon part of my life**
** Part of me has snapped.......and the rest of me is draggin!!**

That is obvious to see you have snapped alright.

A lot of agents deserve criticism but there are some really good ones out there. There are a lot of buyers out that are pains but there are some nice people too.

You comments are just vile.  

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Perp said: ↑
csc2, your comments are outrageous. :mad: If you knew urban cowboy, you would - or should, if you have a shred of decency - be ashamed of yourself.Click to expand...
perp ive been buying and selling for 30 years in the housing industry...sure you get nice agents with a nice "facade" but at the end of the day agents generally i wouldnt trust for one minute....nor would i trust anyone in the real estate industry generally............

money/profits do strange things to normal type people...i see it regularly...even more so in downturn times..agents will back stab each other hell west and crooked to close a deal and obtain commissions so the average joe blow has no chance generally unless you are reasonably experienced.

if you or anyone cannot accept that as fact then perhaps your investing in the wrong industry to be so naive in thinking that agents are your best friend..........

they are far from it.

thanks  

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