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Hi,
I wasn't sure which section to put this - so hope I've got it right.
I am setting out on the journey to build 3 villas in Westminster, Perth. To maximise useable living space in the design I'm considering putting a Euro Laundry in the design as opposed to the more traditional larger laundry.
The villas will be 3bed x 2bath + study, the area is largely first home buyers. I haven't seen much use of the euro laundry in Perth but I think its a great idea for saving space. I'd rather more area in the kitchen or bedrooms than laundry.
I'm going to sell one villa and rent out the other 2.
Thoughts? I need to comply with house/land ratios so I am limited to how many ways I can imaginatively make the house larger without increasing its footprint.  

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I would personally go a small proper laundry, I have a European laundry, but I live in a one bedroom apartment. I think they suit small apartments where the household often consists of 1 or 2 people and size is restricted, but I think something with 3 bedrooms & 2 bathrooms would be more appealing with a laundry. The European one is annoying at times, and I can imagine even more so if you had kids. People use the laundry for all sorts of things, ironing board, washing baskets, clothes horse, pet beds/food, storage etc. But I've never built to sell, so I'm just talking from my own personal preference rather than actual experience of trying to sell/rent them.  

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I'm thinking by "euro" laundry you mean it is incorporated into the kitchen with underbench front loader and dryer?

If so, then that would be fine for me if a dedicated laundry meant taking room from living areas. The big issue is noise and ventilation for a dryer. Washers and dryers are noisier than dishwashers (generally) so a laundry behind double doors could work.

We did this in a kitchen once and it was fantastic. The doors cut down the noise and hid the narrow tub and washer and dryer stacked on top of each other. The lady who bought our house moved the laundry back downstairs on the cement under the house :eek:, so she obviously didn't like it.

My son has contracted to buy a unit that has a small room (no door) opening off the kitchen where the fridge and washing machine/dryer are placed. The fridge could go in a little eating area off the kitchen, but they have chosen to place it in this room instead to allow table and chairs in the kitchen. He wants to remove the walls between the kitchen and this room and expand into it. He will then place a front loader (and possibly a dryer) under the bench and as long as he puts a cupboard door in front of the washer, it gives him much better use of a small unit than having a dedicated room.

I imagine it very much depends on the target market. Apart from my "euro" kitchen cupboard laundry, I have had two small, efficient laundries. It means I cannot iron in there, or even store anything other than one clothes basket on the floor, but that makes me neater than I would be if I had a big laundry. I would turn it into a big junk room :).

Perhaps you should ask some local real estate agents their thoughts. They are the ones who know what people are looking for in the area.  

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wylie said: ↑
I'm thinking by "euro" laundry you mean it is incorporated into the kitchen with underbench front loader and dryer?Click to expand...
Mine is in a cupboard off the bathroom, so it's hidden behind a door. It literally only fits my washing machine in it. If European means in the kitchen, that would be even worse in my opinion. But Wylie you have had kids, so I guess you'd know more about what you'd prefer as a family. I'm just trying to go off the house I grew up in as a kid. We had a full size laundry and can't imagine where all that crap would have gone without it. Even myself, the reason I iron the floor sometimes (refer that recent thread :)) is because my ironing board is a pain to get to if in a hurry.  

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Ah perhaps I should have been clearer :)
In this sense of the term I was referring to a double door full height cupboard (usually folding doors) which has a laundry trough in it and room for a washing machine and dryer above if one wishes. There would be a cupboard below the trough and likely some shelves above it. There would be room for an ironing board between the washing machine and trough.

The main market for buyers and renters is young couples who may or may not have any children yet. The area is Westminster in Perth if you are familiar with it.  

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This is exactly what we put into the house before this one, and which the next buyer pulled out :eek:.

As a mum with three kids including a six month old at the time, I preferred this set up because I didn't have to leave the kitchen area to do the washing, and there was a LOT of washing.

I would have done it again in this house, except there was already a large laundry next to the kitchen with a toilet as well. Because we wanted to keep the toilet, we needed a second door so we made the existing laundry much smaller, enlarged the kitchen by doing so and we then had an "airlock" so you slide the laundry door and then open the door to the loo.

I HATE having a loo that goes straight off a living area, and this is what we avoided by having a separate laundry.

Without the loo, we would have simply made a cupboard laundry. I love this set up but I know friends who love a full laundry. We store ironing board and ironing in a cupboard elsewhere.

If my son does this, I will suggest that he definitely put a door on the cupboard housing the frontloader, and I would go so far as to have it lined with noise deadening material on the inside of that door.  

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we did this with a development last year. we were very apprehensive about it but... it made diddle dee difference to anybody when it came to sell. so I think it is a good idea.  

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Ok, if you have plenty of storage for everything and it's mainly young couples who may or may not have children, then I'd probably go with your idea and maximise the living area. I was thinking of a family using my own tiny setup, which would be annoying.  

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A small issue I can see is that 90% of all other villas in Westminster will have laundrys. Usually first home buyers are a little green and subsequently think of your property as inferior as it doesnt have a laundry like the rest of the houses for sale in the area. Not all, but there will be some. It won't matter much at all if your room sizes are slightly bigger, most first homebuyers won't be able to tell the difference between a 10sqm bedroom and an 11sqm bedroom. A laundry will take all of 6sqm if designed correctly.
IMHO, I would not try to reinvent the wheel in these areas as it will most likely cost you.
As mentioned, this is my opinion only...others may differ;)
Are you expecting to receive a premium for the larger living areas as a result of this European laundry?

Boods  

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westminster said: ↑
Hi,
I wasn't sure which section to put this - so hope I've got it right.
I am setting out on the journey to build 3 villas in Westminster, Perth. To maximise useable living space in the design I'm considering putting a Euro Laundry in the design as opposed to the more traditional larger laundry.
The villas will be 3bed x 2bath + study, the area is largely first home buyers. I haven't seen much use of the euro laundry in Perth but I think its a great idea for saving space. I'd rather more area in the kitchen or bedrooms than laundry.
I'm going to sell one villa and rent out the other 2.
Thoughts? I need to comply with house/land ratios so I am limited to how many ways I can imaginatively make the house larger without increasing its footprint.Click to expand...
Suggest you contact PD Perth Developments 92043699, these guys broker and you will have options you probably did not know about. They know the area well and what will sell in this market.

Cheers, MTR  

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