澳洲Australia property Job for a young teenager | Sydney


在澳大利亚 I need some advice regarding a property purchase. Property - semi-detached house Bedrooms - 2 Condition - average needs internal reno to modernise Street - one of the best in suburb Location - excellent Close to schools - yes Transport - 50m The pool at of an IP needs to be resurfaced (or so the pool doctor says), the cost was estimated to be $10K ($10,000), after recoverying from my impresssion of a cat coughing up a fur ball, it just seems far too much. Its just a standard poo


Hiya

So, i have a 15 year old young son and just started his school holidays (and as usual, gaming on the computer starts:eek:)

Thought i'll try to see whether anyone here would have a casual job for him...atm busking on his sax but permits are hard to get at this time!

We are in Pennant Hills but can go around the upper North Shore...

My aim is not the money, rather to instil the correct work ethics...(in fact, i am willing to go halves with you!!)

(He is a sensible and responsible boy, and good looking too!:p)

(BTW, this is to help him in the finance side of property investing, so i figured it is still a relevant thread eh?:D)  

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Mine will be scraping & sanding old paint in our current IP reno for the next week to earn his xmas pressies.

Um.........that's not slave labour is it?  

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It's probably a great opportunity for him to write his own resume, think about what he has to offer and what he'd like to do, and set out in finding his own job.

IMO, at 15 initiative is probably just as important as responsibility and work ethic.

From what I've seen there a lots of jobs for teens his age, so he should have few problems securing work locally.  

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It can be hard to get that first job. It may be a little late for some of those retail casual jobs which last just until New Year.

As an employer I have recewnlty tended to put more weight on applications from older people, especially those with experience. I've had a lot of unfavourable experience with the younger people, the work ethic generally doesn't come until later.

Unlike other fast food chains, everybody in Subway is required to perform all jobs. I don't have a role for somebody who just works on one station.

Having said that, I have had a handful of younger people who, if they are good, are very good. Some of them have stuck with me for several years.

One actually started with me at age 11, and still works for me at age 18. She is a great worker, however doesn't work that many hours for me any more. She's had enough of working for her dad ;-)

It's hard for a 15yo to break into employment I guess. I see a lot of resumes, and it's difficult for a younger person with no experience to stand out in that pile.

A few things which may help:
1. Make sure it's been proof read properly, preferably by somebody else. There's nothing worse than a young person who can't even spell the name of their school. And don't do, as somebody did recently, hand in a resume which says "Insert name here". With the name handwritten.

2. Get a professional email address. sexylatinbabe46 @ hotmail.com might be funny when you got it at school, but it doesn't create a good impression with employers

3. Emphasise achievements. Sports achievements can be worth mentioning. It shows something of manual dexterity and perserverance. Duke of Edinburgh rates highly for me.

4. Do some volunteer work, just to get that first lot of experience. Salvos, Vinnies, local mens hostel.

Oh yes. Mention it in the forums. I have one very good employee who came to me as a result of a PM from somebody on this forum.  

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First job

Hiya

THanks for those recommendations, esp. the need for a resume:

1) Son is working towards Duke of Ed Bronze (atm shelving at library)
2) Volunteers with his dad once a month feeding homeless at HopeSteet Woollomooloo

3) Teaches Sunday School to below 5s every week
4) At the risk of boasting....Academically brilliant (on a private scholarship atm)

All the above jobs do not teach him money sense though, which is what i am hoping for! :p  

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And good looking too! ;)

I have the class weird kid (weird by her own confession but everyone else backs her up on that one) who won't get involved in anything so getting her a decent resume at 15 is going to be quite the challenge. Can't even get her to open her mouth when she talks or look you in the eye (unless she is looking at your reflection) so she wouldn't get past a job interview either because she's impossible to understand. Still want to know how anyone can rattle out a 100 word sentence in 0.3 seconds without looking at you OR making any kind of gap between top and bottom teeth. Slow down. Look at me. Pause instead of saying "and". Look at me. Open your mouth. Look at me. Argh!

Damn Gen-Z, eh?

No plans for holiday work here though, she's too unreliable and argumentative. Miss 4 on the other hand is quite industrious and pays attention to me so she's got a list of jobs a mile long - the hard part is stopping her doing too much! :D Send your kid here if he's any good at shovelling dirt though lol  

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virgo said: ↑
Hiya

So, i have a 15 year old young son and just started his school holidays (and as usual, gaming on the computer starts:eek:)

Thought i'll try to see whether anyone here would have a casual job for him...atm busking on his sax but permits are hard to get at this time!

We are in Pennant Hills but can go around the upper North Shore...

My aim is not the money, rather to instil the correct work ethics...(in fact, i am willing to go halves with you!!)

(He is a sensible and responsible boy, and good looking too!:p)

(BTW, this is to help him in the finance side of property investing, so i figured it is still a relevant thread eh?:D)Click to expand...
you want him to work, but does he want to work? what motivation is there for him to work?

if sax is his passion maybe trying to get a job with something to do with that, even if he isn't successful in getting a job. music / instrument shop?  

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Ed Barton said: ↑
you want him to work, but does he want to work? what motivation is there for him to work?

if sax is his passion maybe trying to get a job with something to do with that, even if he isn't successful in getting a job. music / instrument shop?Click to expand...
That's true. I don't think a job necessarily teaches him how to be good with money - after all, most people 'in a job' aren't rich themselves. However, it can be a good opportunity to meet new friends etc.  

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I'm trying to motivate our youngest (three weeks off turning 16) to get a job. We will give him $250 for Christmas and $250 for his birthday. That gives him $500 to get through grade 11 for the bits he buys himself (lollies, soft drink, other crap).

He doesn't want "things" for Christmas or birthday but I've told him this is "it". Once his Christmas and birthday money is spent, it is "no more".

He's just bought himself an xbox 360 so is spending lots of time on it, but will get bored before too long (already had a few bored days). He has $25 left in his bank account.

He has $1000 saved in an account that I can transfer into on-line and I have also told him I will not be allowing him to touch this money.

His thoughts are that he will have this Christmas holiday and when he goes back to school, he will look for a job.

The only motivation for him will be "money". I'm hoping once he scores a job he might enjoy it, enjoy the interaction with other young people etc.  

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I agree that he really needs to want a paid job himself. He should also be the one doing the hard yards in regard to finding it. I've never been an employer but I would place a higher regard on a young person who walked into my workplace, well dressed, well spoken, polite, etc and simply put forward their desire to be employed.

I got my first job as a young teenager at a major retailer. Did it teach me the value of a dollar? Absolutely. Why? Because I recall all the times when I sold a packet of cigarettes (15 year olds could do that back then ;)) and I thought to myself, 'There's no way I'd smoke. I'd have to work for over two hours in this place just to pay for one packet'. I found myself thinking that a lot when it came to the things people bought - I would always relate it back to my own pay :D.  

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Aaron_C said: ↑
That's true. I don't think a job necessarily teaches him how to be good with money - after all, most people 'in a job' aren't rich themselves. However, it can be a good opportunity to meet new friends etc.Click to expand...
in deed it can and in deed earning an income won't make him financially responsible necessarily.

my first job at 15.75 introduced me to booze and drugs, every parents worst nightmare. it was fun though!  

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Motivation to work

Hiya

My son's motivation is to reach his first $10,000 in savings because i have told him i will match dollar for dollar !!!:p

Then he can go out and buy his first IP!!

BTW, he has met Nathan (the infamous one on this Forum) and was suitably impressed especially with his 32 UAI score!! :p  

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By the time I was 15/16 I was onto my fourth part-time job. I did babysitting, domestic in a nursing home, meat department and checkout at Woolies and various duties at a coffee lounge. I bought my own clothes, formal outfit, paid parents rent and paid my car off by 18. Apart from paying rent :eek: I really enjoyed earning my own money, saving and buying my own stuff. I was never given money or pocket money off my parents though, so maybe that was the big motivator for me to earn my own. Maybe the not liking paying rent motivated me to save a deposit and buy my own place at 20. :D  

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Hi Investr

All i can say is "WOW!" BUT just curious ....did you have any time for your studies?? How did you cope?  

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get him out with a tradie that runs his own business. just TAing or general cleaning up stuff.  

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I take a slightly different view.

I have two children, both adults now. The eldest was painfully argumentative and generally obnoxious at home. She was shy, and always polite to strangers. She wanted a job, but was not at all motivated enough to find one. Talking to the owner of a pizza shop one day, he mentioned he needed more staff, I told him I had a daughter & she started work almost immediately.

Daughter, after working there for some time decided that she wanted a different job, but again was not motivated to find one. Talking to the manager of a Go-Lo exactly the same happened & she started work there. She was now working two part-time jobs.

Although she didn't really enjoy the pizza job, she stayed working both jobs for ages because she really enjoyed having the money. She stayed at Go-Lo for 6 years.

When it came time for full-time work she still wasn't motivated enough to find her own job. Hubby talked to the manager at his work & she started there. That one didn't go well, she was laid off and it took a while for her to find her current job. Again, she was helped out by a friend who knew of an opening, but she had to ring & arrange the interview herself.

Now, she is VERY slow or non existant at finding jobs, but once she HAS a job she is reliable and very loyal. She never used a resume on any of the part-time jobs, it was verbal only. She did do up a nice resume for the full-time position. She is now thinking of changing jobs & we have told her that it's up to her now to do the work herself and she already has a lead that I think she's working on.

Youngest daugher is different. VERY motivated when she wants something. She had found herself many jobs, both full & part-time. I don't think she used a resume for the part-time stuff, but I know she had a super killer one for the full time jobs. All the jobs that she had while still in school, she only had them for a little while. She got bored, or decided greener pastures (or more money) was better.

Now that she's grown up she's, well, grown up and is much more stable. I did mention that she's VERY motivated, didn't I?

So, I guess what I'm saying is that if they need help to get them into their first jobs, well help them out. Some just don't have the courage or confidence to do it themselves, but once they get their first job(s), they might make brilliant employees, even if they are not that co-operative at home.  

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Great post Skater, and for those of us with older teens, young 20s, I believe it strikes a cord.

Each of our boys is very different. Each has gone about getting part-time work differently. One of the reasons I'm pushing for the youngest to try to get a job up the top of our hill at a pizza place is that I've had years of sitting in the carpark of KFC or Maccas at midnight waiting to bring the little darlings home.

If he gets a job up the hill, he can walk there :D.

Oldest son applied for Coles when he was about 15, went for the group interview, did it all, and having not heard back for months, I asked him a few things. Turns out he wrote on the application "don't want to work with food" :eek:. I said to him "you do know that Coles actually sells mostly food?". He meant he didn't want to work in the deli, but somebody probably read it, thought he was a bit daft, and threw his application in the WPB.

He is a bright young man, but writing that on his application was probably not his brightest act :p.  

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virgo said: ↑
Hi Investr

All i can say is "WOW!" BUT just curious ....did you have any time for your studies?? How did you cope?Click to expand...
I thought study was what you did for a few hours the night before a test. I always worked hard at school to try to get as much work completed as possible and always completed my homework and assignments. I was pretty slack at school, I didn't put in my best work, just a bit more than the minimum requirements. I valued my social life highly!! I was never really into watching TV, movies much as it felt like unproductive time. Throughout my younger years our family would work every Saturday cleaning a building/business owned by my mums family up until they sold it when I was about 10. I guess I was disciplined to work, and enjoyed it. (Hated being a check out chick though, only did it for a few weeks but had another part-time job in the coffee lounge!). When I was at school all I really wanted to be was an artist or a stay at home mum so I guess that's all I was really working towards. I had half paid off my property by the time I was 22/23. Completely paid it off by the time I was 23/24 with help of my husband. At that age I quit my fulltime office job and lazed around for 6 months and had kids a couple of years later. I achieved my end goal! :) I'm ready to go back to part-time work again now though and get out of the house.  

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Develop a brief resume and take it (in person) to the usual places:
McDonalds,
KFC
Pizza Hut
Other fast food
Woolies
Coles
Other supermarkets
Any factories or manufacturing businesses
etc

You'll get a bite.  

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Since he has met Nathan, hit him up for a job as a labourer renovating one of the 238 houses he has bought this month :D  

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