在澳大利亚 I need some advice regarding a property purchase. Property - semi-detached house Bedrooms - 2 Condition - average needs internal reno to modernise Street - one of the best in suburb Location - excellent Close to schools - yes Transport - 50m The pool at of an IP needs to be resurfaced (or so the pool doctor says), the cost was estimated to be $10K ($10,000), after recoverying from my impresssion of a cat coughing up a fur ball, it just seems far too much. Its just a standard poo
Here's a way to get a positive return on property. Build a bunch of these little 3m x 3m x 3m homes.
The Cube Project is an initiative of Dr Mike Page at the University of Hertfordshire who set out to build a compact home, no bigger than 3x3x3 metres on the inside, in which one person could live a comfortable, modern existence with a minimum impact on the environment.Click to expand...
If only we could put 10 at the back of each of our houses!
Similar sort of accomodation has been at Long Bay for some time.
awesome....legal shoeboxing for students.
these things are always a crock of $h1t. i mean, sitting side on to the telly? the 3x3 space doesnt include the area inside the "roof" used for sleeping, god forbid you want to bring someone home for an evening after eating out, because lets face it, if someone has to sit sideways on the couch with their feet out straight while their guest gets the "good chair" .... they'll be eating out a lot, but then bring your guest home and they sleep......where?
the 2.0m ceiling heights are outside the current british building codes.
the bedroom in the kitchen means your bedding would be infused with fat after a week.
oh, and no vanity means you would be brushing your teeth over the kitchen sink.
crap like this isnt even emergency accomodation. 3x3x3 sounds for a pet project, but reality states that its just not ergonomic in principle and certainly not humanist in its function.
i would have considered 4x4x4 a minimum dimension, its workable, physically "liveable" and furnishable.
kudos to Aaron Sice
The Abito developments in Manchester have about 32 square metres of floor space, about the same as Aaron's minimalist cube, and had enough room for a singleton to live in, but am not sure how it would work for a couple. (I spent 9 months or so in one, and was comfortable.)
The unit was split into two sections by a central pod containing storage and a bathroom. Putting the bed on top of this would have freed up floor space, or allowed it to be shrunk further.
The next place I lived in had a similar footprint, and was inhabited by a couple the last I heard. Apologies for the small picture.
A well designed space of 30+ square metres should be sufficient for one person to live in comfortably. It'll need a lot of storage to be workable, as there isn't room to allow clutter to spread.
Graemsay said: ↑
A well designed space of 30+ square metres should be sufficient for one person to live in comfortably. It'll need a lot of storage to be workable, as there isn't room to allow clutter to spread.Click to expand...True, but most Australians live in homes bigger than what they need. Minimum standards like that are good for building codes, hostels and welfare housing but not for what most people will want.
A lot of the late 1960s 'six pack' 1br flats you see in the ring of suburbs about 10km out from Melbourne are around 35m2. They achieve this with normal size bedroom and lounge but tiny galley kitchen and bathroom.
The laundry is typically common to the block. Another compromise was that the bathroom was typically off the bedroom, so you needed to walk through that to get to it (greatly sacrificing privacy if you have visitors).
IKEA has models of complete homes (for a couple) of about this size in their stores, which I think solve these problems. However an increase to 50m2 allows a full sized kitchen and bathroom/laundry, more storage and quite good spaciousness.
Getting back to the cube home, I'm not sure if people are comparing apples with apples. That articles uses cubic metres, whereas we use square metres.
That home is 27 cubic metres. Or 9 square metres on the floorplan. In other words the whole things is exactly the size of a bedroom in a small unit (3 x 3 x 3 m).
What about if compared the 9m2 area with other dwelling types we're used to?
* Just one-quarter of the small 1br unit mentioned above (even that's considered too small by most single Australians living alone).
* 1/3 the size of a student apartment
* 1/6 the size of a generous 1br unit
* 1/7 the size of a modest 2br unit
* 1/20 the size of a regular 1980s/1990s 3br house
* 1/40 the size of a McMansion
The average chook pen that used to be in suburban backyards would be approximately the same size as this cube home. So 'cooped up' is a reasonable description!
I have lived in a 23 sqm 'apartment' before and it is the most terrible experience...
You need at least 45-55 sqm to live comfortably for a couple - anything less and you might as well live in a prison cell.
I assumed the idea is the professor is showing how much you can actually fit into a 3x3x3 & how sustainable this is so why not use some of his techniques so you don't have to build huge homes with plenty of wasted space. I live in an apartment of 72sqm and can see even how much space was wasted in this design.
Even if you double the size of the cube and made it 6x6x6, this would be more than comfortable for one person, affordable, energy efficient & could solve many housing problems in cities that are short of space
eKwatee said: ↑
Even if you double the size of the cube and made it 6x6x6, this would be more than comfortable for one person, affordable, energy efficient & could solve many housing problems in cities that are short of spaceClick to expand...That would be 8 times the volume and 4 times the area...not double.
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That would be 8 times the volume and 4 times the area...not double.Click to expand...yep sorry, I meant 6x6x3, double the length & double the width so 36sqm but using all the same space saving techniques.
I've seen many apartments at 36sqm where the space saving design is more of an afterthought rather than part of the whole space saving concept, like the cube.
I think this award winning design here is also a brilliant use of space. I believe this has been discussed on SS before.
I've seen that apartment before, not sure if it was on Somersoft, and it is a neat piece of design.
Smaller spaces are good if you live on your own, or don't have a large family. They don't require a lot of maintenance, cleaning and the energy costs are relatively low. The latter is probably going to be increasingly important over the coming decades.
But a family of five living in a two / three bedroom house with less than 100 m2 floorspace is definitely crowded. I've got some friends in that situation.
eKwatee said: ↑
I think this award winning design here is also a brilliant use of space. I believe this has been discussed on SS before.Click to expand...You are correct
Small apartment - future trend?
We live in a 'small' house by modern standards (about 150sqm). We haven't been here long so we still have our old furniture and its not hard to see where improvements can be made. Its an odd mix of wasted space and not enough space.
We have a WIR with no shelves (I have a bunch of hobby boxes stacked with planks, but only two rows high) that could be made way better.
Our lounge we still can't work out how to lay it out, the furniture used to be in a 5.5x4.5 space and doesn't work at all in a 4x4 space with a large window. If we had a *good* corner TV unit and a 2 seater lounge instead of a chaise we'd be fine.
The kid's rooms are terrible. They have freestanding wardrobes, one of which is barely 5 foot tall and is a huge waste of space with 9 foot ceilings. We need decent built ins, floor to ceiling, probably integrated with a desk, toy storage etc etc. On the wish list for 'later' Kid #1 has a loft bed at the moment with a desk under it, but complains it gets hot up there and we can't put a ceiling fan in her room or get a desk fan up that high, which we didn't think of when we got the loft bed.
Also need a built in linen press in the laundry, again floor to ceiling plus overheads over the laundry trough. Basically a LOT of storage and floorspace issues in this house would be eliminated by *tall* built in storage.
The one obvious waste of space is the master bedroom. We keep it closed up during the day. Can see why so many of these minimalist designs stick the bed up in a loft or fold them up onto a wall etc.
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these things are always a crock of $h1t.Well there are some things we definitely agree on.
sigh.Click to expand...
Although they could be an improvement for third world people.
Piston Broke said: ↑
Well there are some things we definitely agree on.if they could afford them...
Although they could be an improvement for third world people.Click to expand...