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Hi all,

I've noticed at times agents would advertise a property with 3BR while RP data suggests it's 2BR and Property Improvement lists that study can be treated as a bedroom. It's still legally a 2BR. What are the repurcussions of it? Obviously the asking price is one of a 3BR and not a 2BR.

If the study can be used as a bedroom, can RP data be updated to reflect it's 3 BR? Or will that be illegal? Just curious.

Thanks
MsAli  

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I dont think there's any legalities one way or the other. If you put a door on a study it's a bedroom.  

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A bedroom needs to have a window (many study rooms don't). I'm not 100% sure, but I think there's also min size requirements for fire safety.  

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cimbom said: ↑
A bedroom needs to have a window (many study rooms don't). I'm not 100% sure, but I think there's also min size requirements for fire safety.Click to expand...
thanks cimbom. I'd be keen to know the minimum requirements. I'm guessing I can call the council for those.  

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cimbom said: ↑
A bedroom needs to have a window (many study rooms don't). I'm not 100% sure, but I think there's also min size requirements for fire safety.Click to expand...
id rather have a room thats big enough to hold a bed, than have a window, which theoretically for light isnt useful for purpose :)



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Egress window requirements, and alternate compliances (else all those hotels would be illegal)
the Building code (2011 no amendments yet), copy attached  

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Not sure about the legality in advertising piece, but the price would be determined by the market. If the market didn't see the value of a bedroom masked as a study it won't pay for it.  

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there was an agent advertising a 623sqm block as 623 acres!:D  

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One of my properties is on RP Data as a 2 bedroom when it is definately 3 double bedrooms, all with windows. Another property On RP DATA doesn't mention the games room and formal dining and lounge. I have the house plans and they are definately all there.  

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Sometimes it's because of data not being updated post improvement to the place. We added a bedroom to an IP few years back, and promptly send RPData an update on it (had RPData full subscription at that time). This was in Balmain, and the jump in their valuation price was phenomenal! :D  

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RP data has errors, also agents will not know themselves what is a legal bedroom often.

Inspected a property recently that was avertised as 3 bed, RP data agrees, but in reality it was 1 bed with 2 sun rooms, makes a difference!  

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Property Meister said: ↑
there was an agent advertising a 623sqm block as 623 acres!:DClick to expand...
Plenty of room for a granny flat (STCA)  

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kristaje said: ↑
Sometimes it's because of data not being updated post improvement to the place. We added a bedroom to an IP few years back, and promptly send RPData an update on it (had RPData full subscription at that time). This was in Balmain, and the jump in their valuation price was phenomenal! :DClick to expand...
Kristaje, Did you have to request for it to be approved? I see there is an option to update it yourself too.

I saw a townhouse with a study listed as a bedroom. The agent was adamant he could fit a single bed in a corner which was half a meter. You could put a BIR but nit a single bed there. I reminded the agent that it's a study he said yeh it is, my colleague put it as 3BR "by mistake"  

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Hi MsAli,

It's sometimes ago, but I believe RPData needs to approve it for the change to be reflected.

Cheers.  

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kristaje said: ↑
Hi MsAli,

It's sometimes ago, but I believe RPData needs to approve it for the change to be reflected.

Cheers.Click to expand...
Thanks! I tried it and it worked for the ones we updated :D However only put "Property Improvements". Yet to try anything to do with adding an extra room...

It's an option though. I know people who have converted one bedrooms with a massive lounge to be a 2 BR!

I did also read it either on the forums or in the paper recently about someone who had converted a 2 BR apartment into 5 BR and 3 bathrooms - God knows how that is even possible. Nobody in strata was aware and it went to court.  

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MsAli said: ↑
It's an option though. I know people who have converted one bedrooms with a massive lounge to be a 2 BR!Click to expand...
This was what we did. The new bedroom is a proper one, good size with a big window facing the yard. Wonder why the previous owner didn't do it really...this change plus polishing the floor, painting and adding a beautiful fireplace insert allowed us to revalue the place up by $180k! One of our best investment ever :D

I did also read it either on the forums or in the paper recently about someone who had converted a 2 BR apartment into 5 BR and 3 bathrooms - God knows how that is even possible. Nobody in strata was aware and it went to court.Click to expand...
Wow...that is bold :eek:  

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MsAli said: ↑
Hi all,

I've noticed at times agents would advertise a property with 3BR while RP data suggests it's 2BR and Property Improvement lists that study can be treated as a bedroom. It's still legally a 2BR. What are the repurcussions of it? Obviously the asking price is one of a 3BR and not a 2BR.

If the study can be used as a bedroom, can RP data be updated to reflect it's 3 BR? Or will that be illegal? Just curious.

Thanks
MsAliClick to expand...
have had a simialr problem but revers agents listing our property as a 4 bedroom when itas a 5 bedder 5 full size bedrooms not 4 and then valuing as a small 4bedder without a family room but double garage not single:mad:  

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james_w said: ↑
have had a simialr problem but revers agents listing our property as a 4 bedroom when itas a 5 bedder 5 full size bedrooms not 4 and then valuing as a small 4bedder without a family room but double garage not single:mad:Click to expand...
Sorry James I don't understand. Why would an agent advertise your property different to than what it is?  

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Rp data not 100% accurate

rp data grabs its data from realestate.com.au automatically and often has information such as number of bathrooms and bedrooms wrong. They dont accept liability for wrong info on their listings, where agents have too. I would think the agent would be correct over rp data.

I believe in australia the building regs require "external ventilation" for bedrooms, so they will need to have a window to the outside. On the gold coast, most people classify the difference between a study and a bedroom depending on whether it has built in cupboards or not. anywhere else in australia thats more established with older homes dont tend to have this requirement...

hope that helps!  

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Jtkumnick said: ↑
rp data grabs its data from realestate.com.au automatically and often has information such as number of bathrooms and bedrooms wrong. They dont accept liability for wrong info on their listings, where agents have too. I would think the agent would be correct over rp data.

I believe in australia the building regs require "external ventilation" for bedrooms, so they will need to have a window to the outside. On the gold coast, most people classify the difference between a study and a bedroom depending on whether it has built in cupboards or not. anywhere else in australia thats more established with older homes dont tend to have this requirement...

hope that helps!Click to expand...
How do body corporate / strata executive committees take this change? Should they be asked for permission prior to this change? Especially because you may let it with an extra bedroom, but if strata plan isn't updated will the insurance cover it? And come to selling such a property, the buyers would do a strata report - that will still state the original number of rooms. How can these updates be requested to the strata plans?

Thanks.  

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