澳洲Australia property Moving Easements (Drainage/Sewer/etc) | S


在澳大利亚 Hi Guys, Ive found a property that has mentioned two payments coming up of $1400 to apparently top up the admin fund and 2 have just been paid. Im looking at a financial statement (basically a balance sheet) for the strata and its all a bit Hi all, I currently have a PPOR and 10K cash in the bank which I plan to use as a deposit for a IP early next year. Is it possible for me to place this into my PPOR loan and then redraw the 10K when Im ready for the IP and then claim the int


Just a quick qn before I go searching.

Has anyone had any experiience doing it ?

What type of easement was it ?

Who needed to grant approval ?

Was it worthwhile ? Was there any unexpected costs (and what did it cost) ?

Ok - off to search, Ill post my results here as well as (hopefully) some of your replies :)  

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This is a semi bump/update

Your can also encase easements so if anyone has any experience doing that Im also interesting in hearing about it.

Spoken to a few plumbers, actually moving the easement isnt too hard - the problem lies w/ the waterboard.

Being an ex govt place dealing with them has been a nightmare

If anyone has any idea please post :)

Until then Ill update if and when the waterboard give me a decent answer.  

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No experience moving them, but I'm curious to know why?

I have heard of some blocks having easements running at weird angles through their back-yard, for example, but most of the time they run down the back fence or along a side fence.

But the reason I'm asking is that an easement usually [obviously] houses biggish pipes etc and those pipes usually are part of a longer "communal" run (eg. the main storm water drain through an estate) so it seems like kind of a very difficult proposition.  

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if it can be moved or encased ill be able to build/extend

the current 1br shack doesnt really appeal to me.... having said that if I can work out how to move/encase it im $200K infront

easements dont need to be big... weve redirected one in the past - it was all of a 100mm pipe.... but that was comm/industrial - the rules are different :/  

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From what I have heard it all depends on how close you are going to build to the easement, as there is something called a zone of influence. This is a triangulated measurement off the easement so that there is no pressure on the easement from the building. If the building is inside this zone it will require extra large footings or the easement may need encasing in concrete. The waterboard or council should be able to advise and an engineer will need to design.
I have not done any of this myself but a neighbor build a garage with 2m of a 300mm easement and he had to peer? The footings.  

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I can see why you would want to move it with an extra 200k up for the taking.

Good luck with it all Ben.  

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Hi XBen,

I have heard of cases where it has been moved, but unfortunately I have no idea what it cost them... what I would do is go visit your Water provider (not sure if they handle waste water, ie. Melbourne Water here in Melb) to discuss your options... by visiting them in their offices they can bring up your lot on their computer screen (saw this when I subdivided once) which shows all sewers & easements & can give you an indication on whether it can be done & if so an indicative figure...

Good luck with it, I would also pursue it if I were in your shoes...

Cheers,

MannyB.  

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To encase the easement means to build sort of a cement tunnel with the easement pipes within it.

The tunnel needs to be planned by an engineer, as it needs to be load bearing and structurally sound.

They are usually quite wide, to distribute load, so that no load falls onto the pipes. They are also usually quite exxy, however, if you are going to gain substantially they can be worth it.

Note that they will not usually allow you to bridge over a manhole or inspection point.

asy :D  

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i have the sewer/water/easement diagrams - usually they are in the contract of sale (infact I think they have to be)

the water providers aint that helpful :) they have NFI - ive gotten different answers from different ppl on several occasions

Originally posted by manny
Hi XBen,

I have heard of cases where it has been moved, but unfortunately I have no idea what it cost them... what I would do is go visit your Water provider (not sure if they handle waste water, ie. Melbourne Water here in Melb) to discuss your options... by visiting them in their offices they can bring up your lot on their computer screen (saw this when I subdivided once) which shows all sewers & easements & can give you an indication on whether it can be done & if so an indicative figure...

Good luck with it, I would also pursue it if I were in your shoes...

Cheers,

MannyB.
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the mere mention of the word engineer costs $$$ :)

ive spoken to a plumber that has moved one before - was a storm water easement - only cost him a few K (ie less than $10K)

you need to provide 1m access to the outside of all access structure - ie manholes, lampholes, maintenance shafts

going forward I think I need to get written approval from sydney water before I do anything.... unfortunately I think buying w/ an option has been ruled out...

Originally posted by asy
To encase the easement means to build sort of a cement tunnel with the easement pipes within it.

The tunnel needs to be planned by an engineer, as it needs to be load bearing and structurally sound.

They are usually quite wide, to distribute load, so that no load falls onto the pipes. They are also usually quite exxy, however, if you are going to gain substantially they can be worth it.

Note that they will not usually allow you to bridge over a manhole or inspection point.

asy :D
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Hi XBen,

if the Water provider has no idea, call around some local plumbers OR builders & ask if they have performed anything like this... they may give you some tips or leads... good luck with this, but as mentioned before, don't give up on it, spend the time to make those calls & see how you go...

Cheers,

MannyB.  

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water providers have accredited providers for this sort of thing

ive gone to them and asked them no "if" i can do this but....."how" i can do it .... no luck so far.....

sorry i left out the details.... ive exhausted the logical avenues... its not that simple  

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