澳洲新州三分之一新的Covid病例是儿童 但没有一个是

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过去一周新州大约三分之一新冠病例是儿童和青少年。

过去24小时里,177名未满十岁的儿童测出新冠,另外215名10-19岁人士测出新冠。

尽管如此,重症室里没有儿童,大部分在医院的儿童是因为他们的父母也病了,他们可能传染其他人。

当有三个娃的 Joanne Siamani 染上新冠时已经做了最坏打算。

她在Nepean医院拍下视频,说我脑海里太沉重,想着在家里的孩子和老公。

这名来自Ropes Crossing的32岁女子到医院后他老公也病了。

他被带到Westmead 医院,而他们的儿子们也测出新冠,孩子被带到隔壁的儿童医院。

她说,我每天以泪洗脸,我找不到孩子,我把所有精力放在上帝身上,我告诉他要保佑他们。

Westmead儿童医院早期职业研究人员兼儿童传染病专家Philip Britton医生说不到1%的儿童新冠患者需要医疗护理。

他告诉9号台,较小的孩子一般是吃东西有困难,需要流质食物方面的支持才来的,而青少年患了新冠后影响到肺。

虽然大部分儿童很快就康复,但很多父母担心长远的副作用。

但副作用一般在儿童身上较轻,只有1-2%的症状会持续两个月以上。

Britton医生说,两个最常见的症状说持续咳嗽和疲劳,有的会失去嗅觉。

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儿童也会失去嗅觉?以后还能恢复吗?

如果嗅觉不能恢复,这样的后遗症也是非常可怕的了

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长期困在家里可能更大地危害儿童的健康

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比长期失去嗅觉大吗?那我宁愿困在家

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没有这样的病例

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如果是真的还好

如果是为了不给幼童打疫苗就躺平开放造势…

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我认为长期呆家也是不行的,所以每日都下午2-4点帶小孩去踢球,踩車。

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可怜

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所以呢?我就该放孩子出去挑战一下轻症和全家测试隔离是吧,这不是没事找事?

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24小时177名儿童人数够多的了,医院够忙碌的了!孩子一得家长也跑不了,麻烦够大的。

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貌似十岁以下的比十岁以上的反应小?

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对于政客来说,儿童也好老年人也好,都只是数字而已,只要不死亡都是轻症

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家中小孩也会先呆家中。

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坐标kellyville,今天公园的小孩明显比上周少了很多。

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这很重要

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出去玩和后遗症没有关系,出去玩保护好自己就行了,讨论的是得了对于孩子未来的影响,某些自由党就喜欢,捣浆糊

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出去玩和后遗症没有关系,出去玩保护好自己就行了,讨论的是得了对于孩子未来的影响,某些自由党就喜欢,捣浆糊

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没看懂。是说小孩先是呆在家里吗?

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400多一个重症都没有?那10岁以下是不是不要扎疫苗了?

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如何保护孩子的安全,各有各的不同方法,各自求福吧!

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当人数上升后, 死亡也是个数字。

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家里有5岁以下儿童的如果父母都得了会得到一点政府的帮助吗?这么小的孩子不能照顾自己,别人也不敢照顾,那该怎么办呢。

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总觉得每天确诊数字有点少,譬如1200人确诊,未成年人占1/3,大概400人,如果未成年人染病渠道主要是家庭,那可能会有另外800人是父母或兄弟姐妹,可事实上不可能每天1200例仅仅来自于400个家庭啊?

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是的,外面疫情严重时就呆家里。

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开学前得造势,证明政府的决策是英明的。

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美国学生上了一年半网课,这才刚返校上课。澳洲跟美国都跟不像。

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重症率不高是好事 但是这不代表这样孩子就没有长期后遗症 尽管只是长期疲劳症对一个孩子的影响也是深远的 学习各方面能力都下降了 孩子能有快乐的成长嘛

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太可怜了

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这在目前情况来说真的算是很好的消息了 千万不要再其他的变种了,打疫苗抗疫真的很重要

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按照现在政府的德行 , 就是有了也是以后才会宣布的 , 就和 CHILDCARE 感染宣布的时候已经爆了 30 间了。真担心开学了,如果 一半是儿童病例, 难免ICU,或者。。

咋办

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有没问题或后遗症的,可能真的要十几二十年后才知道。

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不撞南墙不回头

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可以主动接触病例完成自然免疫从而放飞

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昨天发布会有人问了这个问题,你去看一下,好像医院方面有照顾的。

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现在谁知道呢,媒体不停造势,给民众洗脑,谁来解释一下印尼为什么死了超过800儿童呢?谁又来解释一下,印度有几万个父母双亡的新冠孤儿呢?

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傻子才这样做

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丁克一族多好

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看来饿肚子不会死,不要侥幸心理真的会死

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开始造势准备解封?

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旷课。申请home schooling。搬家。

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这里的医生儿童医院传染病专家说的你也不信,数据清晰到精确到各位,你不信,不知为啥非要看印尼的,毒株不一样,医疗水平不一样都有可能。儿童医院的医生不会为媒体造势吧,没必要。

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父母打疫苗,避免感染。自己照顾自己的孩子最放心。

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开学计划摆在那里。要早作打算。

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美国的研究,儿童新冠后长期后遗症有,长期失忆,注意力不能集中,学习和记忆能力下降,抑郁,味觉和嗅觉丧失,长期疲劳无力,呼吸短促等,各位悉尼的家长希望自己的小孩这样么?

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非常明智。家长们应该尽快打好疫苗。

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极少数

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新州政府把宝压在儿童上上了.

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不是不信,是样本太少,另外澳洲媒体造势,研究所根据政客要求调整模型参数的事情多了,谁要他们说什么就全盘接受,那就真是太天真了

等到了圣诞节了,新州医疗系统崩溃了,回头再来看儿童得新冠会不会重症,会不会死亡,去年的时候,莫里森还说学校是安全场所,儿童不会感染新冠呢,你信了么?

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当儿童疫苗实验数据更多,对疫苗的效果和安全更有把握时,就可以开始对12岁以下儿童免疫

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怎么下的了手洗地,这也能下的去手?!
某一些粉是不是需要去医院看看去了?我们众筹也行啊。



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有比例的,我去查查多少比例来着,另外,过去的一年半,美国学生可都是在网课哦,尤其是Delta高传染的这几个月,美国学生都在放暑假哦

另外,美国新冠儿童死亡的案例也不少的,美国医生可不敢开口打包票,儿童得了新冠不会重症,不会死亡

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送回中国躲一段时间啊。

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你都开始怀疑专业人士的话了,你太焦虑了。没必要,印尼的人口基数大,没有疫苗,这些都不能比的。另外这边的医生还是有权威的,不会为政府瞎说话的。你去看病总怀疑医生是骗子哪行啊。

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如果你相信你说的,应该尽快逃

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儿时得过急性肺炎的,四五十岁比肺部不曾有过毛病的更容易被肺结核菌感染。肺结核是富贵病,要吃有营养的东西,现代中年人最容易得糖尿病,如果中年得了肺结核和糖尿病,一个要吃得好,一个要吃得糙,怎么办?
Delta比急性肺炎严重还是轻?政府不知道,澳洲医生知不知道?真不好说。因为澳洲不常见肺结核,最初的肺结核是一个在海外感染归澳的印度人,那时候整个澳洲医生都搞不明白是个什么病。
肺部儿时被感染了,对成年以后的影响如何? 这个政府考虑过?研究过?


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前提是不出现医疗挤兑

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这希望数据显示12岁以下不需要打。

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他甚至觉得这边的医生会帮政府造势,可见他有多焦虑。要传达的信息是什么呢?得了也死不了,所以不用大惊小怪吗?

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‘I wasn’t certain I was going to leave hospital’: Sydney teenagers tell of terrifying Covid experience
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The recovery in hospital felt unbearably long for 18-year-old Donna Nguyen, who lay limp in her bed for six days, unable to sit up to even look outside her window.

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In June, Donna and her housemates Sam McMahon and Alex Sumption were visited in their western Sydney home by a friend, who was celebrating a birthday.

On Friday morning, just two days later, she received a call from that friend. His father had tested positive to the highly contagious Delta Covid strain.

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“My mum is immunocompromised,” Sam says.

“So the moment we were told our friend’s dad had tested positive, I grabbed a travel pack and isolated myself with Donna and Alex in the granny flat.”

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Later that day, the fever kicked in. They knew this was very wrong.

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“Isolating in the granny flat was an option. Isolating together in hotel quarantine was an option. Isolating separately in hotel quarantine was an option,” Sam recalls.

“Then we were told we didn’t have any options. We’d be picked up that night to be sent to a hotel. Then that pick-up was moved to the next morning.”

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“In comparison to Donna, my symptoms were mild, and it was still the worst I’ve ever felt.”

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Donna recalls trying to sit up in bed. “I began hyperventilating.” By this point, she had not eaten for three days. She couldn’t keep anything down.

“I remember trying to take Strepsils, and even that I would throw up. If I tried to breathe, I would cough and gag.”

Barely making it to the bathroom, Donna tried to take a shower. She passed out from the steam.

“I was excessively shivering, but was sweating and hot. I am lucky Sam and Alex were there to call for a nurse.”

Donna was taken to Royal Prince Alfred hospital, still gagging and throwing up nothing. Her visit lasted eight hours. “They said I was dehydrated, gave me laxatives (for her stomach cramps) and sent me back to the hotel,” Donna says.

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When nurses tried to check Donna’s blood, her arms were too limp to find a vein. She describes not being able to make it to the bathroom, right beside her bed.

“I was catatonic for a few days.”

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“I was so sad. I was isolated and I never knew when I would leave the hospital. I couldn’t be certain that I would leave at all.

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But her return home was challenging.

Her body had much to recover from.

“I couldn’t walk for more than an hour at an average pace. I am still like that. I try to walk my dog, and I come back after an hour and my legs are shaking.”

She describes the anxiety of having Covid as intense. “Getting hit with something people are still learning about is terrifying. And so is the fact I got hit so badly as a young person.

“I’m eighteen. I still feel like a child. I’ve never had a health issue and rarely get sick. I was waiting for my second semester of my first year of uni. Next thing I know I’m in the hospital strapped up to an oxygen mask.”

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“We caught Covid from a line of contact,” Donna says. “We were in contact with a friend whose dad was in contact with his boss who was in contact with someone else positive with the virus.

“And people are still going to protests. They think they’re excluded from the effects of this thing. It is 不雅ed. Can you put that in capital letters?

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我不在新州,不用逃,像你们坚信儿童得新冠不会重症,不会死亡,不会有后遗症的,现在应该主动把小孩送去感染一遍啊,反正还不如感冒啊,而且就算严重点,现在医疗系统还没崩,还有人救治,多好,等过2个月,你们鼓吹的躺平策略实现了,到时感染了都没医院收,不是更危险么?

话说回来,我早就旗帜鲜明的支持新州彻底放开,完全躺平,是你们的战友啊,别冲我开炮哦

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啊真的?是实习医生吗?澳洲最怕结核了,移民都的做这个检查啊,怎么到这里都不知道啥事结核病了,,我们去看病每次填表都填这项啊。知道是哪个医院的吗?请告知,下回注意一下。

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说az疫苗容易血栓的 和 说az疫苗没问题的比辉瑞更安全的 都是卫生部门的人 你信哪个?辉瑞az都摆在你面前 你选哪个?

医疗部门的人以前还说过口罩没用 不用戴口罩 难道不是为了响应政府号召吗?

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很多很多很多年前的事儿,那时澳洲本土没有肺结核先例,医生接受过肺结核病例。有个印度来的,当流感治,后来都急救了,最后发现是肺结核。
孩子小时候去其他国家,之前接种目的地流行病疫苗,提到这个。不离澳洲的话,不需要接种。听医生说的。这段历史的具体细节记不清楚了。

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你真的语无伦次。我什么时候坚信儿童不会重症,不会死亡,不会有后遗症了?其次,就算坚信这些,就应该主动去感染吗?感冒危害不人就应该主动去让小孩感冒?吃到不洁食物拉肚子不是大问题就应该主动吃脏食物?

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你刚刚为新洲焦虑成那个样子,我还一直安慰你,看你的发言,怕你崩溃了承受不了,怕你担忧,结果你这番话让我目瞪口呆。你的目的是?

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奥,原来又是听说的,我明白了,谢谢

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家里没有老人家的还好,有老人家的还是要小心别被孩子传染上

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自粉不是洗地说儿童新冠不会重症么?鼓吹赶紧躺平全面开封么?

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不是现在的事儿。不用担心。
说这个是想表达,质疑,澳洲对肺结核仅限于书本知识,医生过手的病例不会多,没有很富足的实战经验。儿童delta感染之后,被治愈了,那么到了成年以后,肺部功能会不会比童年没得过delta的弱很过?

个人觉得孩子在打疫苗之前,不要轻视得这个病,不要认为好得快,就得不得无所谓。

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谢谢你的关心,其实大家网上发表言论,都改变不了什么,自由党政府还不如想怎么干就怎么干,刚才言语冲了点,抱歉,希望新州朋友都好,顺利度过这一关

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我是听GP说的,不是实习医生,是很popular的香港医生,这里长大的。这是澳洲医疗史上的大事儿,咱们论坛里很多医护人员,随便一问就知道这个是不是真的。

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有老人家一定要尽快打疫苗,无论小孩是否返校。

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打了一百万计疫苗没出现血栓,当然会认为安啊,后来第1百万零1剂的时候出现了血栓,当然要改了。Moderna,还说安全呐,结果昨天日本还出事了那。所以现在当然会说有风险了啊。bi yu

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另外,那个确实是好的建议,因为新州全面解封,彻底躺平的话,迟早每个人都会感染一遍的,甚至几个月感染一遍,早感染比晚感染好,至少能得到救治

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你问这些与我无关。

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为小孩去学校裸奔找依据?这州长太恶劣了,拿小孩当小白鼠。

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不是现在的事儿。不用担心。
说这个是想表达,质疑,澳洲对肺结核仅限于书本知识,医生过手的病例不会多,没有很富足的实战经验。儿童delta感染之后,被治愈了,那么到了成年以后,肺部功能会不会比童年没得过delta的弱很过?

个人觉得孩子在打疫苗之前,不要轻视得这个病,不要认为好得快,就得不得无所谓。

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较小的儿童的反应不严重,是表达能力不够吧

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万一早点感染一边,之后又感染一遍呢?不是说可以一直感染下去吗

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谢谢你对新州的支持,对抗疫情,我们不要先考虑什么政党,面对疫情时我们为什么非要区分政党,这个是民主党那个是工党,我们都是澳洲的一分子,说实话我都不知道其他州的州长是哪个党的,可是这并不是我们抗疫要关注的对吗?无论什么党,我们都在积极的对抗疫情,面对这个难关,因为我们都生活在这里,希望我们尽快摆脱疫情过上更好的生活。

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这里有个陷阱已知delta一传传全家
所以小孩没事父母呢?

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怎么解释美国那么多儿童呆在重症室?

我的理解是,美国把很多儿童在没必要的情况下转入了重症室。

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从新州州长和政府的种种操作,强烈地不相信他们了。

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我觉得你说的对!

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这些新闻就是要误导大众

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继续为开学做狡辩

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什么意思?没有理解。你的意思是必须要得一遍,难道疫苗不起作用?还有,就是真的得了,难道就终身免疫了?好像现在还没有这样的结论吧。
所以,还是要打疫苗;然后尽量避免得上。而不是像你说的,早得然后获得医院资源治疗,然后就不得了。
父母都打疫苗。

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最重要的是,long covid的影响,并不是重症才有,轻症也可能有。这才是最可怕的。有long covid还不如死了呢

The chances of having long-term symptoms does not seem to be linked to how ill you are when you first get COVID-19.

People who had mild symptoms at first can still have long-term problems.

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孩子能吃能玩,就没啥大事,游戏都不玩了,那就是病得严重了。

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儿童得了都是轻症,这明显的在为政府10月末开放学校站台啊。谁这么说就让他/她孩子先得,让新州的父母一起祈祷让他/她孩子先得。

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有些人觉得那么多儿童在医院没有重症就很开心一样。

儿童没有重症是好事,但那么多在医院就不是。

这些都需要医护人员照顾,并且需要特别隔离照顾,那就减少了对其他需要照顾的儿童的医护。新闻都说了,现在每天因为有自残自杀倾向的青少年一天就有40左右,还不要说其他疾病的儿童,这些人不需要照顾了?

儿童没事并不能减轻医院人员的压力。解封以后担忧的不是儿童重症,死亡,而是住院人一多,医疗,医护资源消耗过快而导致的疏忽造成的不良后果。

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我也奇怪以老外的思维好像自动忽略了这么重要的一个环节。
按小孩从幼儿园/小学感染感冒回来传染一家的常见情况来讲,这是可以预料必然会发生的啊。
州长说,80%大人们打了疫苗。
哦,没事,打扰了。

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果然开始宣传不能打疫苗的群体越来越安全了。。。

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我不认同迟早每个人都会被感染。也不认同早感染好过晚感染。

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是啊,不停的造势,站台,洗脑;有孩子的家长要警惕啊,这绝对不是一个正常的现象

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那看来州长的逻辑是这样的,成人打了疫苗就没事了,小孩子即使得上也是轻症,没事的;既然都没事了,以后就不用关心covid了。到底是猪脑子想事情,认为别人和她一样。

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“大部分在医院的儿童是因为他们的父母也病了”。如果他们的父母打了疫苗,他们父母被感染的机会低了。即使感染了,进医院的机会也低了。那么这些儿童进医院的机会就低了。所以为了保护儿童、为了医疗资源不受重压,成人应该尽早打疫苗。

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医院床位不够了,打了疫苗可能是不需要去医院的比例提高。。。



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他不在新州,但希望新州躺平。不知道是何种用心

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总理去年还鼓励别人孩子上学但把自己的两个女儿留家里呢。为啥就那么肯定这个医生没必要?

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那看来还是得早解封啊,要不自杀的更多了。咋办你。烧脑啊烧脑。两害取轻,新冠住院的少,自杀恐怕都的住院。

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反正有一句话说的好:事出反常必有妖。
大家拭目以待,但千万不要去做垫脚石,炮灰。谨慎点吧


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逻辑对啊,那你的逻辑那?

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In the past 24 hours, 177 children under 10 tested positive to COVID-19 and a further 215 aged 10 to 19 caught the virus.

24小时有177个儿童,215个青少年感染。当中那么多住院的,就要专门隔离看护。其他mental health的不要看护了?

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又来了,去年三月份的新闻对不?去年三月份,那时的疫情大家都说不清哪,关不关都不知道,全世界都不知道,谭书记还说没事,不是大流行那,你当我们总理是神仙,亏你还鸡蛋里挑骨头,在处宣传这个事,

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新加坡总理的逻辑是怎样的呢?

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这么怕真心回国吧。国内的封锁都是1个月而且都是极小的局部,所以承受得起。澳大利亚动不动大半个国家封个半年,就是金山也掏空了。所以一定解封的。我实事求是的说,就是维州的安州长已经彻底放弃清零了,联邦在疫苗率达到后也不会再给钱了。

所以呢,迟早孩子都要去上学的。而这世上也就中国包括台湾清零了

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感染不一定住院啊,哥们,你咋的啦。非得说崩溃了才行吗

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我没到处宣传啊,除了在你这里。你是怎么那么肯定的说没必要的?

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挺可怕的

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我的逻辑是谁说没事就祝福谁先得啊

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儿童进医院的机会也低是你一厢情愿的想法?就算没有covid时候儿童感冒发烧去急诊的多的是,就算不住院,去急症就不能像以前那样随便进出,必然需要和其他急症病人分开。 你都让你家孩子扛着?

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他的逻辑就是总理总统们都是猪脑子,就他厉害,可惜了,怀才不遇,郁闷呗。

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感染是不一定住院,但感染人数上去了,住院人数必定会多,你觉得打了疫苗反而会减少?70%就解封,30% 你算一下nsw还有多少人口没有打或者不会打疫苗。

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我说的是现在儿童因为新冠进医院的问题。大人打疫苗有助减少儿童因新冠进医院。

你一提这个我就知道是找总理的查的,故意给他设套,谁看不出啊,再说一下,去年三月份,疫情刚开始,都不知道封不封学校,谭德赛还极力反对这是pandemic 那,还说shi是过度反应,不应该那。我们那时也不知道究竟咋回事。你这点心事和意图其实一看都知道了

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大人打了疫苗怎么就有助减少儿童因为感染住院了?儿童开学以后,在学校感染了,有了症状就让他们在家扛着?就因为大人打过疫苗可以在家照顾他们?你是这个逻辑?

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102#不是说了吗?

现在的情况是,这些儿童的病情不需要住院,但是他们父母住院了,他们才进医院的。

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这还安排学生返校?

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你不要回避哟。我是在问你:你是怎么那么肯定那个医生没必要的?他给你讲的?你认识他或者其他的。

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有哮喘的孩子是不是比较危险

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我跟你不一样,我希望我们大家都健健康康包括你,不得新冠。

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疫苗率上去以后才返校

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你什么逻辑?

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逻辑不通。前几个月打疫苗的人年底防感染的就要降低近一半,大人可能不会重症,照样会传染给儿童。儿童也照样会从30%还没有来得及或者永远不会打疫苗的人那里感染到。

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那我感谢你,大家也感谢你。我不知道你是否有孩子。但我有。
所以看到说什么孩子得了就是轻症就来气。因为根本没有足够的样本,也没有足够的观测时间,医生就轻易的下结论。前两天已经有个什么医院的主任出来这么说了,这今天又跳出一个医生

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他们不需要住院,但也有去医院的需求。你是认为儿童有症状不需要住院,也不需要去医院就在家里扛着?

我说的不是儿童住院的问题,而是儿童住院或者去医院必然不能和以前一样随便进出急症,医护人员对普通病人和感染病人的照顾和防护必定两样。你会让一个刚检查完covid病人的医生护士,没有消毒洗澡的情况下来检查只是因为摔伤去急症的病人吗?

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我觉得你太有耐心了,我已经没耐心了,他的意思是为啥吃药就能治病,吃饭怎么就不饿了那的问题,喝水可以解渴吗?困了为什么要睡觉。这些对他来讲太深了,他理解不了。

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既然这个医生敢那么说孩子没事,那就让这个医生的孩子先得啊,得了之后拍个没事的视频在电视台播放,这才有说服力。拿别人的孩子说没事,算什么

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我听医生的,我孩子病了也听医生的,你孩子病了不听医生的听谁的?你听自己的可以自己给自己治病,挺好。减轻了医疗负担。没准你还成了一代神医,都有可能,我看好你,有着怀疑一切的潜质。

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我有刷到过小红书上美国华人护士透露重症监护室有5岁儿童有基础病,感染新冠转阴转阳的一直反复,后来撑不住脑死亡的案例,我知道说这个你未必会信,但是说美国把很多儿童在没必要的情况下转入重症室,这好像也太侮辱美国医生的医术和智商了是不是

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看了小红书上英美国家孩子感染的帖子,貌似都很轻症。

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我和你不一样。我不盲目的听,我要判断,我要辨别。对的我听,那如果不对呢?难道医生说的就全部是对的?

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所以说,医生说啥你也不会信的。你的病自己医最好了。给你看病的医生估计也没啥好结果。

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你这又是从哪里得出这个结论的。我没病,你倒是应该好好看看。

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医生给你开药,你肯定会先让他吃了看看是不是毒药,如果他没死,你才肯定他给你的不是毒药?

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是因为说多少都不管用,上帝来了,都阻止不了格格巫和莫里森让新州 躺平的决心,所以与其反对,不如支持了,不然能咋样呢?

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好壞都有

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大家都在努力,为什么说躺平了呐

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那个什么库克被两个ID气的口不择言,并不是希望新州躺平。你顺着看下来,就发现他和你的观点一样:现在澳洲的病例不能说明对孩子没危害。
这样被气得急火攻心的,才这是有孩子的。

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格格巫州长没有小孩吗?

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儿童感染到也很少需要进医院。现在大部分在医院的儿童,自己本身不需要在医院治疗的。是他们父母进了医院,没办法照顾他们,才住进医院的。

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医生只是实话实说而已。

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为啥要用孩子去赌后遗症? 不中新冠不好么? 赶紧搬家去wa或者来qld 圣诞要是真开了 小孩怕是相当危险。谁能保证孩子得了会痊愈?反复得 反复痊愈?

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简直是胡搅蛮缠。
支持哪些担心的家长赶紧搬家。

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是否需要入院听医生的。

其他病去医院,就要靠医院的安全措施了。最近有些人在医院里感染了covid-19.希望他们能吸取教训,避免同类事情发生。越多人打疫苗,小孩被感染的机会就越低。

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你是新来的吗?

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医生:“没事。包扎一下,很快好的。"
病人:“没事?那你让我割一刀看看。”
医生:“滚!”


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原来只有维州小孩会进院和ICU的,新州威武!

http://www..com.au/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1692975&mobile=yes

http://www..com.au/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1693190&mobile=yes

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混淆视听

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哈哈上担心的家长一大片呢,你这支持的范围有点广哈,支持别光挂嘴上呀,键盘敲两下就完事了?你给出点钱出点力,保不齐一大票想搬走的家长要谢谢你,啥都贡献不了的就别在口头支持了吧,显得自个儿LOW

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加上链接

http://www..com.au/bbs/ ... ead&tid=1692975

http://www..com.au/bbs/ ... ead&tid=1693190

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希望新冠对小孩子是轻症,等这些孩子长大有免疫力,哎

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哇 原来我们新州人民是得了自由党的福报啊 这样的福气给你 你要不要啊!
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