澳洲有一些这样类型的小学叫做Democratic schools，学生们在那里学什么如何学可以讨价还价，小朋友自己决定要学什么和怎样学。。。在那里，学生们再也不需要对Year 5的时候乘法口诀表只会到5而担心了，因为你可以不要学这个没用的东东。。。
孩子自己就是老板，不是老师和校长，因为这个学校根本没有校长。。。
令人惊讶的是这些学校也声称符合州教学大纲。。。
这所学校的老师说，这个学校教育的核心价值就是“玩”。（At the heart of democratic education is play; the valuing of play as the work of children）
看上去应该对现代倡导爱心教育一切以孩子为本的家长会很有吸引力，你会送自己的孩子去哪里吗？
Where all are equal
July 29, 2010 - 1:59AM
At Currambena Primary School in Lane Cove, children choose what they want to learn, wear plain clothes instead of uniforms and call teachers by their first names. They have an equal say with staff and parents on how the school is run and receive individual assessments instead of competing against friends in exams. Oh, and there's no principal.
These unusual features stem from the school's belief in democratic education. Its vision is to create a place where imagination and creativity are prized above memorisation.
To Cecelia Bradley, a teacher with 30 years' experience and the president of the Australasian Association for Progressive and Alternative Education, democratic education happens when children and adults become "co-learners" and help make decisions for their community together.
"At the heart of democratic education is play; the valuing of play as the work of children," Bradley says.
"Interaction between all ages is encouraged and valued. The balance between individual rights and communal responsibility is lived and learnt."
Bradley believes democratic schooling encourages student engagement.
"A person has to know that you care before they care what you know, " she says.
For parents seeking an alternative to mainstream schooling, Currambena Primary and Preschool is one of about 10 democratic options in Australia. Others include Kinma Primary and Preschool in Terrey Hills and Hurstbridge Learning Co-op in Victoria.
The co-ordinator of the International Democratic Education Network, David Gribble, says there are about 70 democratic schools around the world.
Democratic schools in Australia need to follow the curriculum of their state educational boards but the syllabus is typically broad and open to interpretation.
Opponents claim children cannot direct their own learning because they do not hold the depth of experience of adults.
"But what makes someone more experienced or knowledgeable as soon as they turn a specific age, such as 18?" asks a registered psychologist, Dr Adrienne Huber, who has founded alternative schools in Western Australia and Brazil.
Karen Brien, who sends her seven-year-old son to Currambena and formerly taught in state, private and Catholic schools, applauds the way children's passions inform the curriculum.
"I love that the children can negotiate how and what they learn and that there is no sense of panic if a child does not know their times table by a prescribed age," she says.
"Here, teachers recognise children's capacity for leadership, as opposed to their potential. A teacher would speak to a three-year-old as respectfully as they would speak to a parent. When this becomes normal, you really notice its absence in the wider world."
The democratic process at Currambena involves the full school community – students, staff and parents are invited to a formal school meeting, every Friday morning, which is presided over by the students.
The children open the meeting, work through an agenda, call for order, present speakers, ask for votes, make decisions and determine the consequences for anyone who has broken the rules.
"Children often make very passionate speeches in these meetings," Brien says.
After their meeting, students choose what they want to learn for the rest of the day. Music, maths, gardening, basketball or explaining early reptilian activity to other students – the choice is theirs.
Currambena was established in 1969 by a group of passionate and frustrated education academics from Macquarie University. The group envisioned a school run by a council of parents and teachers rather than an autocratic principal.
They were inspired by one of the oldest alternative schools in the world, Summerhill, which opened in Germany in 1921 as a backlash against the way children were disciplined in the Victorian era.
Currambena shows that education has come a long way since then.
"When I tell my children that you're not allowed to take your shoes off at most other schools, they are shocked and they ask, 'But how can you climb the trees properly?' " says a former student at Currambena, Jessica Kimber, whose two children now attend the school.
Anne Ridgway is the principal at Blacktown Youth College, an alternative high school in Sydney's western suburbs that helps disadvantaged teenagers. Unlike Currambena, many of its students come from troubled backgrounds but similarly the college supports democracy in the classroom.
"When you allow some rules to be bent, some latitude . . . you're more likely to gain some co-operation," Ridgway says.
Each week the college holds a communication session between students and teachers, called "What's up my nose?", and a harassment committee is represented by six students and one teacher. Issues that come up for discussion include who gets to participate in weekly privileges, such as go-kart racing, and how to resolve bullying.
"A lot of the kids have difficult home lives. We try to give support for learning without lots of rules," Ridgway says.
Huber supports the holistic vision of democratic education.
"Teachers focus on their students as people who are creating their whole lives," she says. "The children are their own boss, not the teachers the boss of the children."
This story was found at: http://www.smh.com.au/national/e ... 20100729-10x6z.html
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如果这个年龄的小孩就有足够的阅历和经验进行独立的选择并承担相应的后果，我想法定结婚年龄也可以大幅提前了
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请问LZ，悉尼除了Lane Cove还有没有这种学校？
[ 本帖最后由 海之女 于 2010-7-30 17:19 编辑 ]
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Currambena Primary School in Lane Cove
Kinma Primary and Preschool in Terrey Hills
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我不会送孩子去这样的学校
我觉得小朋友在什么年龄就应该做什么样子的事情，小时候就是学习知识的时候，不是讨价还价的时候
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我也不会。我觉得自家孩子根本不是LEADER的料子。就算送进去，也未必能培养出LEADERSHIP，最多也就跟着一些强势的孩子身边转悠，最后学业还给耽误了。
如果孩子领导能力和欲望都很强，在循规蹈矩的学校学不出彩，也就试试看这样的学校
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儿子不是读书的料（暂时还看不出），在想该上什么学校。
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"They were inspired by one of the oldest alternative schools in the world, Summerhill, which opened in Germany in 1921 as a backlash against the way children were disciplined in the Victorian era."
Summerhill不是在英国么？
“我不会送孩子去这样的学校
我觉得小朋友在什么年龄就应该做什么样子的事情，小时候就是学习知识的时候，不是讨价还价的时候”
宁这是主流思想，请接受多元社会。
“我也不会。我觉得自家孩子根本不是LEADER的料子。就算送进去，也未必能培养出LEADERSHIP，最多也就跟着一些强势的孩子身边转悠，最后学业还给耽误了。”
这种学校的管理团队应该是轮值的，每个人都有机会take不同的role。
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夏山学校可以念到15～16岁，按照其校长的理论，小朋友11～12岁还是玩的世界里，等他们玩够了，自然就会要学习了，当然不一定是课本上的知识。
从1921年办学至今，快有90年了，如果效果很差的话肯定会被板砖拍死了。
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“在日本，处在一定年龄阶段的人只能过传统认定的这个年龄阶段的生活；在美国，我让这种观念去见了鬼，身心得到了彻底的放松。纽约不相信”为时已晚“。”
－《飞吧孩子》
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大部分普通家庭，只愿意让孩子体验mainstream education. 耽误不起，输不起。。。。。play safe.
家里钱不是问题的，想象发挥空间比较大。 比如homeschool，蒙校。
[ 本帖最后由 粉猪妈妈 于 2010-11-3 16:11 编辑 ]
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在澳洲体力工照样高收入，有什么输不起的？
第一代移民没有社会积累而已。
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收入没有多高，只有更高。。
体力工，都不会希望孩子也做体力工
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“我不在乎学生毕业后是去当大学教师还是去烧砖头，我关心的是学生的性格，他们是否诚实，是否宽容。看看那些训练有素，生活在条条框框中的孩子。夏山孩子正面，乐观的人生态度最让我欣慰。”
－ by 尼儿，夏山学校创始人《尼儿是个大傻瓜》
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在澳洲哪些体力活是高收入?
千万不要举水管工的例子，水管工在澳洲是金领工作
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表随便用金领那么高级的词！
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第一句是虚伪的。。第二句才是关键，才经典，人的作为是由性格决定。。。培养，引导性格才是精髓。。
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我指的体力工高收入，主要是相对中国来说的，宁懂得。
个人认为夏山一类学校出来的学生不会做单纯的体力工，或许数学，阅读并不好，但总有一方面是相对出色的。
他们把学习那些公式，做题的时间都花在了自己喜欢的东西上面，脱颖而出很自然。
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还有很多钻石领的。。绝对不需要中学以上的文凭
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是我孤陋寡闻了
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粉妈比较适合这类学校。。可惜了。。。
备注: 蒙校等另类学校的价格相当于私校， 的确。。。金领的体力工才能负担得起
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任何judgement，都有自己的价值观在背后做支持。
自己不能理解的，并不说明别人的想法不可能存在，还是那句话：请尊重多元社会。
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很多人看不上眼的一个职业(特别是华人)，靠COMMISSION 吃饭的SALES...各行各业的SALES，地产，股票，保险。。等等等。。。
[ 本帖最后由 粉猪妈妈 于 2010-11-3 16:43 编辑 ]
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[ 本帖最后由 jimqiu 于 2010-11-3 18:28 编辑 ]
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参考另类学校的SES SCORE就能找到‘巧合’。。一个美丽的巧合
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算是银领了
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不知道体力工老外的想法是怎样的。
体力工，都不会希望孩子也做体力工；
体力工，不会都希望孩子也做体力工
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所谓领，(我中文不好哈，请谅解)。。应该是上班时候穿的带领的服饰。
这里的体力工，不削领。。金的银的内衣穿了更踏实。。哈哈
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我刚才又想起来一个职业 集卡司机
来钱多
其中的佼佼者是lindsay fox
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精辟呀，纠正了我句子里的缺点 (我诚信这么想)
不过，这和是不是老外没什么关系
[ 本帖最后由 粉猪妈妈 于 2010-11-3 16:54 编辑 ]
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